Superintendents Leadership Podcast
Leadership isn’t about getting it right every time.
It’s about showing up, learning, and making better choices the next time. An Imperfect Leader: The Superintendents and Leadership Podcast is for superintendents and district leaders navigating the beautiful, messy work of public education.
On this podcast, we leave perfection at the door. Through real stories, candid conversations, and reflective after-action reviews, we talk about what happened, what was missed, what we learned — and what we might do differently next time.
If you’ve ever felt the pressure to be flawless in a complicated system, you’ll feel right at home here.
Hear from fellow superintendents and leaders on:
What actually happens behind the scenes
The frustrations no one talks about
The wins worth celebrating
And the tough calls that keep all of us up at night.
Latest Episodes
The Art and Science of Hiring Teachers – Dr. Kevin Carl
This week, I am get to visit with Dr. Kevin Carl, Superintendent of Hancock Place, a school district outside of St. Louis. Kevin talks about his first job at a batting cage. He gives his thoughts on the term an imperfect leader. He talks about…
Principals, Principles, and Continuous Improvement – Dr. Demond Means
This week, I am thrilled to visit with a tremendous leader, Dr. Demond Means, Superintendent of the Wauwatosa School District, a school district just outside of Milwaukee. During our conversation, an incredibly vulnerable reflection by Dr. Means…
Don’t Just Do Something, Stand There! Dr. Chris Gaines Talks about Non-Renewing a Teacher
In this episode of An Imperfect Leader: Leadership in (After) Action, Dr. Chris Gaines is my guest. Chris will describe the difficult decision to non-renew a teacher as his After-Action Review. He will talk about the role of timing as a big factor in…
If you’re a superintendent or district leader navigating these same tensions, we’d love to support you.
Thanks for joining us on this imperfect journey.
You’re not alone — and you don’t have to carry it alone.



