How can we move from traditional schooling to truly empowered learning? In this episode of An Imperfect Leader, we sit down with Dr. Malena Garganigo, Assistant Superintendent for the Clayton School District, to discuss breaking traditional leadership models and centering student agency.
Here are three key themes from their conversation:
1. The Five Pillars of Empowered Learning: Dr. Garganigo unpacks a framework designed to personalize education through five key components: Path, Place, Pace, Voice, and Choice. A standout insight is her definition of Path. It isn’t just about the activities a student does, but rather the various modalities they use to demonstrate knowledge.
2. Leadership Through “Side-by-Side” Presence: To break the mental model of the distant central office, Milena and her team utilize a backup system where central office administrators are physically present in buildings to support staff and students. She emphasizes being “in the mess” with teachers, serving as a co-researcher and thinking partner rather than a top-down evaluator.
3. Building Trust to “Burn” Trust: Citing a concept attributed to Jamie Almanzán (and originally to Hattie), Milena discusses the necessity of building enough trust with staff to be able to “burn it” when making difficult decisions.
Listen to the full episode to hear more about leading with empathy and systems thinking!
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Think differently. Think in systems. Reach out to The Waters Center for Systems Thinking to learn more about how systems thinking capacity building can strengthen your team and organization.
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Music for An Imperfect Leader was written and arranged by Ian Varley.
Sam Falbo created our artwork, a wood-print inspired daruma doll butterfly.

