We are bringing back one of our most impactful conversations for an encore episode of An Imperfect Leader!
Have you ever wondered why, in a profession where over 70% of teachers are women, only 28% of superintendents are? Or why so many leaders feel they have to be “perfect” just to survive?
Dr. Rachel White joined us to dive into her groundbreaking work with The Superintendent Lab. She didn’t just look at the numbers; she hand-collected data on nearly 13,000 leaders because a national database simply didn’t exist. One of her most startling finds? One in five superintendents is named John, Matthew, or Michael.
In this episode, we explore:
- Mirrors and Windows: How leadership serves as a “mirror” for students to see their potential and a “window” for the community to understand diverse lived experiences.
- The Hall of Mirrors: A candid look at how school boards sometimes hire based on fit, which can inadvertently reinforce the status quo.
- Leading with Curiosity: Moving away from hierarchy and toward a coaching stance that ripples through an entire system.
- Legislative Storytelling: Why superintendents need to be proactive partners with state legislators—not just the “no” people who call when they’re angry.
Dr. White reminds us that every data point is a human being with a family, a story, and a why. If you’re looking for a way to lead that centers on empathy and research-driven insight, you won’t want to miss this.
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An Imperfect Leader: Leadership in (After) Action is supported by ILAA, LLC, a firm dedicated to supporting aspiring, new, and established leaders. For more information, please find them at imperfectleader.com.
Music for An Imperfect Leader was written and arranged by Ian Varley.
Sam Falbo created our artwork, a wood-print inspired daruma doll butterfly.

