What an incredible, deep-dive conversation on the An Imperfect Leader podcast! This week, I turned over the mic to Jamie Almanzan who sat down with his long-time mentor and coaching pioneer, Jim Knight, to talk about what it truly takes to lead and support educators.
If you’ve ever felt the tension between wanting to drive change and wanting to support your team with dignity, this episode is a must-listen.
Some takeaways from their conversation:
1️⃣ Partnership Over Control: Real coaching and leadership aren’t about manipulating or telling teachers what to do. When we treat educators as equal partners with dignity, autonomy, and professional expertise, we create space for meaningful, lasting growth.
2️⃣ Start with Kids, Not Strategies: Instead of picking a strategy and forcing it into the classroom, effective coaching starts by asking, “What change do we want to see in our students?”
3️⃣ Navigating the Valley of Despair: One-off workshops rarely change habits because initial attempts at new practices are almost always clunky. Real change happens when there is follow-up. Having a partner beside you to help guide you out of the “valley of despair” when things don’t go as planned.
🎧 Listen to the full episode now to explore how to lead with intention, curiosity, and grace through organizational change!
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Think differently. Think in systems. Reach out to The Waters Center for Systems Thinking to learn more about how systems thinking capacity building can strengthen your team and organization.
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Music for An Imperfect Leader was written and arranged by Ian Varley.
Sam Falbo created our artwork, a wood-print inspired daruma doll butterfly.

